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December 18, 2009

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Lynn

An interesting letter from the Deputy Mayor of a town in the UK regarding where they stand on BSL:
http://www.bulliez.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14540

Lynn

KC KS Kills Dogs

Just for the record Mayor Reardon of Kansas City, Kansas USA seems to think that he should look into providing more training on "breed identification" for his ACO's.

His statement was made after he had been read verbatim the NACA stance on the challenges of BSL and specifically breed identification.

It was as if the words just whistled in one ear and out the other.

Sara

Hey, is that Bill Johnson who used to write for Rocky Mountain News?

Rinalia

The only problem I had was the DNA testing. There is no DNA test for American Pit Bull Terriers. One covers American Staffordshire Terriers, but most APBTs do not have AST's in their pedigrees.

But I'm glad to see another reporter jump on the bandwagon. The ultimate point is still valid - visual identification is fraught with problems and should NEVER be a determination in the behavior of a dog, let alone whether they get to live or die.

Brent

Sara -- most likely as the two newspapers merged most of their staff a couple of years ago.

Rinalia, I know what you're saying on the DNA test. I am not convinced of how valid the DNA tests are -- and I don't know how far back in history they go. For example, if someone takes in a Great Dane for testing. Will it show up as 100% Great Dane? Will Mastiff and Greyhound show up also in it's background? And I'm not even sure which would be the "right" answer...

I think the APBT and AST situation would similar to that -- but am not quite sure how it works. That aside, the breed identification failures are just crazy -- and I have no idea why any city would choose to deal with that issue vs just focusing on a dog's behavior.

EmilyS

well since the AST had no breeds added to it, its DNA should be identical with the APBTs. But it sure would be interesting to test some to see what happens!

I'm extremely skeptical about the validity of these tests though and I fear that for every "pit bulls" saved by a test that shows it's a lab-ridgeback (or whatever) mix, more will be killed when the test shows it's predominately AST/SBT/ABPT.

I think there's a trap for us here. The issue should be breed identification anyway.. it should be breed behavior.

Though anything that might open the tiny brains in Denver to the reality that they are killing dogs that are NOT pit bulls is probably a good thing.

Lisa

One of the biggest problems with BSL is that it hinges almost entirely on equivocation, so anything that helps to point that out and illustrate that breed discrimination is capricious and inconsistent and just plain wrong is ultimately a good thing.

Cecil Moon

A couple years ago I took a dog to a shelter in Carthage, MO and the attendant identified about half the young dogs there as Labs. As a former Lab owner I can assure you there was not a Lab in the house.

Thank God we don't pick our other "best friends" on such flimsy evaluation of their breed. Who cares as long as they are eager to keep that tail wagging.

Brent

Emily, I don't disagree that we may be opening pandora's box with this -- but it is what it is. I am not scared of the facts - I can't help but think that the more information is out there the more in our favor it will be...assuming anyone really cares about reality any more. One thing is for sure, it is causing headaches for cities right now....

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