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April 10, 2008

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Becky

Well, I do not have time to go over all of Winograd's presentation and book, but for those who have -- do not forget that he has plenty of ideas and methods for a shelter to MAKE MONEY -- enough even to PAY citizens to license their pets. (I know this was in his presentation, but do not remember if it was in his book.)

There are ways for a shelter to save a LOT of money, if not earn a profit, by following all of his steps and thinking outside of the box.

I vote that Michelle approaches this city w/ a proposal: Pay her $60,000/ yr as Director (sorry, that's a paycut for you.... ) and pay ME $35,000 to assist her. The proposal will establish how the city can either break even or possibly make a profit within 1 year. With some support of our policies, it CAN be done.

AND, would sure not be hard to show a kill rate FAR below KCMO's pathetic percentage.

Marjorie

Has anyone even tried contacting Winograd, to see if he wants to assist in the conversion? I mean, he might love this as an opportunity to show how a shelter can be turned around...a test case, of sorts, documented from beginning to success.

Caveat

Good thinking, Marjorie.

It's 'oversees', not 'overseas', I can't keep quiet any longer! Spellcheck doesn't pick up homonyms.

Brent

I know that attempts to reach Mr. Winograd are being made...He's a tough man to track down right now, but I know that he is being reached out to.

s kennedy

Systemic change or not, it is my understanding that despite non enforced MSN, the WA shelter still reduced their kill rate consistently over past years.
Staff shortage will always result in something being wrong. So if they could do that even with staff shortage, it doesn't seem like it was as bad as some made it sound. On the other hand, the shelter B says had previously killed 97% and reduced it to 86%, that place needs some big help.

Christie

Thanks for the link to Pet Connection.

Nathan Winograd is not hard to track down. The problem is, I believe, that he's often asked to come in and evaluate a shelter or an animal control department by members of the community or even an individual, but there has to be some body of support for the effort -- you can't just show up at the shelter door and say hi, I'm here to inspect you!

In King County, the county itself hired him to evaluate the shelter. In other places, the county has hired other consultants, such as HSUS in San Luis Obispo, CA.

I'm certainly not speaking for Nathan Winograd, but simply observing that without a coordinated, community-based plan, with a strong buy-in from large numbers of stakeholders -- multiple shelter and rescue facilities, someone representing animal control, be it someone from the department itself or someone in local government, pet owners, vets, etc -- these efforts can't succeed. That is because they are not about a shelter or a department, but about a community or a region.

Once a community-based plan is in place, there are funds available, such as from Maddie's Fund, to help develop the plan into a reality.

Again, speaking only for myself, I have seen a lot of reinvention of the wheel as each town or county starts from scratch, thinking its shelter/animal control problem is unique or an isolated incident.

The truth is, most of these situations have many, many counterparts across the country, and examples exist where dire statistics are turned around in one year or sometimes less, simply because someone, usually a new shelter/animal control director, has the will to do that.

This is one of the reasons I've started covering the various efforts to reform shelters and animal control departments across the country, to start identifying the patterns and pointing them out, so that people can see they are involved in a growing movement for shelter reform, and not just one community struggling with a bad situation.

Brent

I think in order for the community at large to get on board, the KCMO animal shelter is going to have to make some attempt to improve their situation first. They could make major changes quickly and easily. In fact, the 10 percentage point decrease in kill rates between 2006 and 2007 were almost completely due to the work of one person who cared. The AW community in KC would certainly get behind changes, and I think the rest of the community would soon follow. We're certainly not a unique situation here. We just have an animal control division that doesn't seem to care that thousands of dogs are being put down each year. It certainly doesn't have to be that way.

Caveat

Christie is correct - as with most of the issues around animal welfare, the shelter problem is not localized. It's a systemic, cultural problem which Redemption brought to light.

It's also true that without a formal invitation, consultants won't be able to do any studies or make recommendations.

So, before that can happen, you need lobbying to get local officials interested in a better way to do things. The two main concerns of municipalities are financial costs and liability, in my experience. They sweat these things day and night.

So, if you can prove that their costs will decrease, their liability won't be affected and their image will improve dramatically if they take some leadership, you will likely get their attention.

I do agree that the KCMO shelter sounds like a classic example of something that could be turned around if there is the will in the community at large to do that.

That would be a very good thing indeed.

animaladvocate

I have not been following this as closely as I should be but I do hope we are not talking about a 97% kill rate next year at this time. That is pathetic and embarrassing! I hope that the Kansas City government and citizens will rise up and help take care of these animals properly.

I have read Nathan Winograd's book and it sounds almost too good to be true. I volunteer at a local no kill shelter and it is really hard...I just hope it can work on a larger scale. People relinquish cats and dogs for the most ridiculous reasons and I think we need to educate the public about what their role is in this problem.

Maggie Moo

I think that more people should respect dogs!

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