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April 03, 2007

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MDog

Wow - interesting column. I agree that the guy behaved like a complete jerk and there was no excuse for his terrible behavior. That said, however, I have to add that I think it was extremely arrogant of the woman to ask that the other party be moved because she felt uncomfortable being near their well-behaved dog, which was allowed to be there. It seems to me the decent and gracious action would have been to accept responsibility for her own fear of the dog and to ask that she and her party be moved.

I have never had my dining experience ruined by a dog, but I have been near many ill-behaved screaming children and, if it's bad enough, I always ask that I be re-seated further away. Sure, you can make a statement and get in a huff and try to make the world bend to your whims, like this woman did, but you definitely risk offending and provoking conflict where you need not. Hmmm, somehow I suspect that someone who felt the need to make the other party move might not have been as nicey nice as she portrayed herself in this column.

Anyway, though, about dogs in restaurants and public perception ... I love the Filling Station and I love that they're so dog friendly. I also love that place around the corner from the Bluebird - I forget its name. But does it seem that the people who operate dog friendly establishments here seem to want to keep their dog friendliness hush hush? I've found that at several places that they seem to have some fear that the city will crack down on them or something and put the kibosh on the dog friendliness. Any idea what that's about?

Brent

The place around the corner from the Blue Bird is Lilly's -- it's fabulous. Great food, great service, and very dog friendly.

Most seem a little under-the-radar on their dog-friendliness, but most don't have big ad budgets and just rely on word of mouth (word of mouse in this case). We found out about Lilly's in Paw Prints Magazine. The Kansas City Dog Advocates also keep a list of dog-friendly places on their website that includes dog-friendly restaurants, coffee shops, pet stores, and insurance agents/companies that don't discriminate based on breeds. You can check it out here:
http://www.kcdogadvocates.org/DotNetNuke/Home/PetFriendlyResources/tabid/74/Default.aspx

I also think you make a great point about the woman getting the OTHER person to move instead of moving her group...every time I've been around annoying Children, I've just politely asked to be reseated...

Marjorie Darby

Good grief. The whole story, from headline to end was repugnant, and rife with ignorance; from the "woman", to the restaurant staff, to the dog owner, to the "reporter".

Shameful. Truly one of the most shameful examples of human behaviour and "journalism" (and I use that term in its loosest sense), I've ever had the misfortune to read.

Wow. Just...wow.

Cheryl

Are we sure this scenario really played out this way? Is there a police report to verify this happened, or did this ignorant woman and the reporter make this up to further villify PB's and their owners? Hmmmm makes you wonder.

Caveat

Unfortunately, this woman has been brainwashed by media and government, as have many others.

If the dog was present when she was seated, and if she dislikes dogs, why didn't she ask for another table?

When the waiter told her that the dog was a regular, why didn't she just relax and go with the flow, maybe she might have learned something?

The dog owner missed the opportunity to be an ambassador for all 'pit bull' owners by reinforcing the negative stereotype, as you so nicely point out. He didn't follow our unspoken rule, 'one head at a time'. He missed the chance to educate someone, maybe make a convert.

I'm afraid this was another non-story, played up and likely embellished for the sole purpose of getting the slang term 'pit bull' out there as a Google trap.

Be careful though guys, because I suspect you'll be hearing some blather about dogs on patios in the near future.

Marjorie Darby

Yeah...and wouldn't it be just great if we now include restaurant staff to be included in the list of inexpert folks assigned the task of enforcing 'pit bull' restrictions? It might go something like this:

Waiter: "Ma'am, you can't have THIS dog on our patio because it is a 'pit bull'."

Patron: "Uh, THIS dog is a Lab/Boxer cross."

Waiter: "Well, it looks like those 'pit bulls' you see on the news all the time, and I'd rather be safe than sorry."

Patron: "What if I give you my dog's licensing information? Would that help?"

Waiter: "Uh...let me ask my Manager."

(elapsed time 10 minutes)

Waiter: "My Manager says you can call your dog anything when you get a license for it, so that wouldn't prove anything. And since the recent change in the by-law forbids 'pit bulls' on restaurant patios, we have to enforce that, if we believe the dog is a 'pit bull'."

Patron: "So, basically, you don't want my business."

Waiter: "No. We'd love your business. You could take your dog home and come back, or tie it up across the street, where you can keep an eye on it. You just can't have it with you on our patio."

Patron: "But my dog is not a 'pit bull'."

Waiter: "Ma'am, there's nothing more I can say. I'm sorry."

The dog owner turns to leave when a man and his Jack Russell Terrier enter the patio area, at which point the JRT proceeds to attack her Lab/Boxer cross, who does nothing but recoil in fear.

Waiter (to JRT owner): "We have a table for you right over here."

MDog

I have to agree with Cheryl that we'll probably be hearing about dogs on patios soon. I find it amazing that, by all accounts, the "pit bull" dog was the only well-behaved individual in this story. And yet, this Lanie St. Clair and the reporter team up to somehow twist this incident into a dogs-shouldn't-be-allowed-on-patios tirade?

That is so wrong! I don't have a pit bull, but I have fostered a few. And I have to suggest that the self-righteous, fearful nurse and the hot-headed dog owner could both take a few behavior lessons from a bully breed. Both individuals could stand to learn how to be a little more even-tempered, brave, friendly and forgiving.

Brent

Yeah, I like that the dog was so aggressive that the woman didn't even notice the dog until her kid tried to pet it.

And Cheryl, I agree that who knows what really happened here, but even told from the woman's point of view, the woman was clearly wrong in this situation. I would assume the guy was a bit of a jerk, and who knows how exaggerated the story may or may not be.

I really think there is no way they can ban pit bulls from restaurant patios -- as they're then telling restaurants what can and can't be done on private property (although they do it in non-smoking ordinances all the time). I think it'll lead to either being pit bull bans, or no dogs on patios. But yeah, I expect it to come up at some point. The local media is already reporting every dog incident that happens in this city, and it's just now April...sigh.

chowsky

How Lucky you people in KC are to have a restaurant to take your dog to! I live in Greensboro NC and would love to have a place where I could take my very well-behaved dog . As a matter of fact, we have Randy Grimm, the author, and his dog Quinton coming to our city for a book signing and we have NO restaurant to entertain the both of them in! So sad. Sometimes the south is indeed so backwards!

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