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December 10, 2011

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Laura G

Thank you for sharing these. It's always a tragedy and I don't think we can emphasize enough that the circumstances the dogs were kept in were the mitigating factors, NOT the breed.

Plus, as Karen Delise showed in a white paper a few years ago, media sources simply do not report stories in which a bite is inflicted by other breeds of dogs. Why? Because the words "pit bull" guarantee click-throughs and attention.

For this reason, it frustrates me enormously when people say, in defense of their fear of pit bulls "OK, so why don't I ever read stories about a lab attacking someone?".

Lastly, as Karen has also shown, the incidence of severe and fatal dog attacks has dropped dramatically in the past decade and continues to do so, thanks to education, better humane laws, and responsible ownership.

Brent, I know you know all of these things as well as I, but I hope any of your readers who see this post will have a chance to see these facts as well.

Thanks for your tireless and excellent work!

Tegan

Another issue here is poor containment. Do dogs have to be effectively contained in the USA? (or not 'roaming at large'?)

Brent

Tegan -- the laws here vary by local city/county governments. Most cities prohibit running at large -- so dogs must be contained in some way. This is not the case in rural areas where dogs are more likely to roam at large.

Bobbi

First of all you should do your homework before making remark. I only had one bulldog and he has never bit anyone or been reported for aggressive behavior. That was a neighbors dog which had nothing to do with me. I was home and worked on my friend til first responders arrived. He was on a runner not a chain and we let him in the house at night. He was on a runner during the day. And I'm not poor or ignorant. I've always been good to my dog. He just turned one July the 4th so I'd like to know how they were problems for over three years. The only dog that the pound has been called for is my lab because he was laying in my driveway and the neighbors hate dogs.

Brent

Bobbi,

I'm reporting on what has been reported in the different media outlets. I linked to my source on that.

And for a variety of reasons, runners and chains have the same negative impact on dog behavior because they still cause frustration, and offer little protection from outside threats.

I'm also not sure what "he just turned on July the 4th" means, but I can tell you, that if there are a lot of fireworks going off and a dog is left outside, it can be very traumatic for a dog.

btoellner.eq.propaganda

Even you admit that most dog bite fatalities are by pits. Even if a human did something wrong in all cases here, where are the other breeds? Are labs not being kept on chains? This is where your reasoning goes off the tracks, Brent. You are arguing that a grenade is not more dangerous than a banana because a human must pull the pin on the grenade. However, you are not admitting that pulling the stem off the banana will not cause the same explosion. Please see my other comments for why your entire intellectual edifice built around what you do here is horribly broken. But how can the originator of something like this be expected to be capable of realizing the folly involved? Obviously, it is a bit too much to ask of you.

You state how rare dog bite fatalities on humans are, but are you aware of how numerous serious dog attacks on humans and non-humans are? Well, if you pay attention you will notice that they occur quite frequently. I suppose that doesn't fit with your PR story though. Here's a new little pit victim.

http://helphenryfund.wordpress.com/

I question keeping him alive, but the pictures are quite instructive. I'm sure if you get out your detective kit you can find the reason why all this is some human's fault, Brent. Go to it!

Brent

Pit bull type dogs are extremely popular dogs in this country -- rivaled only by the Labrador Retriever in sheer numbers.

What percent of Labs do you think are chained up and neglected?

What percent do you think are owned by low income and poverty-stricken people?

What percent would you say are abused?

Then, answer that for pit bulls.

There is a reason pet-abuse.com has nearly as many 'pit bull' abuse cases listed as all other dog breeds combined -- it's because they do suffer en masse like no other breed in present day.

So, if we changed on the situation and put Dobermans, Rottweilers, St. Bernards, Chows, Akitas, German Shepherds, etc in similar situations in similar numbers, do you not think they would be in the same situation?

If you want to remove the tragedies, you must focus on the circumstances. There is a reason every organization of professional dealing with canine/human interactions tells us to focus on this. It's not that they're "hiding something" -- it's because it's fact.

As for Henry, truly a tragic case. A few months ago, my neighbor across the street had her dog bitten and killed by another dog. It was a tragic situation that she lost her dog. But animal control was never called. There were no police, or news cameras or websites -- because the killing dog was just a dog and not a 'pit bull'.

Dog bites/attacks on other dogs happen. Heck, go to your local dog park and hang out all weekend and you're almost sure to see one (and these are dogs whose owners are making attempts to socialize them). And when one dog is much bigger than another, it's a problem.

Anecdotes don't equal data or science.

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